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uMM, hISTORY REALLY ISN'T A THING i KNOW MUCH ABOUT,
bUT i DO KNOW THERE WAS A REBELLION, aND THAT'S WHY THERE ARE NO ADULTS, aNYMORE,
i DON'T KNOW ANY MORE DETAILS THAN THAT, sORRY,

[Nothing she doesn't already know, of course.]

I suppose it can't 8e helped.
I have never encountered a low8lood with a passion for history in my time, after all; I suppose I can at least relish in the fact that nothing has changed there.

iT'S NOT REALLY THAT i WOULDN'T LIKE IT, i THINK,
jUST THAT IT ISN'T REALLY AVAILABLE, lIKE STORIES THAT AREN'T REAL ARE,
i DO LIKE STORIES A LOT, bUT i WOULDN'T KNOW WHERE TO LOOK FOR THE ONES THAT AREN'T MADE UP,

Ah, stories. Sometimes more faithful to the truth than history itself.
You were the one who mentioned to me the story of "Pupa Pan," correct?

i'M NOT REALLY SURE, wHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT,
oR HOW SOMETHING MADE UP CAN BE CLOSER TO THE TRUTH THAN HISTORY,
bUT YES, pUPA pAN IS A THING i TOLD YOU ABOUT, bECAUSE IT IS MY FAVORITE STORY,

History is mangled 8y those who survive it. Stories remain only true to themselves.
Still, I am curious a8out this Pupa Pan tale of yours. Would you care to tell it?

yES, i WOULD LIKE TO,
bUT i'M NOT SURE i'D BE THE BEST TROLL, tO TELL IT,
i CAN TRY IF YOU WANT, tHOUGH,

Unless you could direct me to a 8etter storyteller, then I suspect I will have to hear it from you.

uMM, i WILL DO MY BEST, tHEN,
mAYBE i CAN TYPE IT UP, aND THEN IT WON'T BE AS UNCONFIDENT,

[How long until Mindfang regrets not filtering from this guy...

only time will tell.]

highbloods are still on top predictably
an really thats all that fuckin matters

[Almost immediately.]

Yes, such was very clear the very moment I encountered your self-entitled, pompous expression.
8ut if you are so dense as to 8elieve that the re8ellions of the past do not matter then you are truly a disgrace to your race.
Surely you must have 8een taught something in order to maintain the dominance of your 8lood.

[He'd actually love to just totally geek out and discuss history with you Mindfang, but he has an image to maintain, and maintaining said image doesn't involve sharing his interests with bluebloods.]

wwoww talk about old fashioned
howw about you sit the fuck dowwn an let me fill you in
the fact a the matter is the past doesnt mean shit an thats all there is to it
no fuckin point in dwwellin on it
simply because its ovver an done wwith an wwere all taught to livve in the present thats kinda the wwhole point
movvin forwward progress an all that
not botherin reminiscin on nonsensical shit

Re8ellion is hardly nonsensical.
I am not asking a8out the 8estselling novels of days past, I am asking a8out events which lead to a complete overhaul of the troll empire itself.
You would 8e an idiot to not pay attention.

[Wait, maybe directly insulting him is not the best course of action this time round. She does want information out of him, after all. OK, slight change plan.]

8ut perhaps the Condesce has only restricted access to those trolls she deems worthy of the knowledge.
I suppose it is a little ridiculous that I should expect mere wigglers to know anything a8out such important matters.

[Ding-ding-ding! We have a winner!]

noww hold on a fuckin second here
granted the important matters are all kept restricted from the others they dont havve a fuckin right to knoww
but let me tell you right noww that i just so happen to knoww wway more about this than they wwould
if theres one thing i knoww its history and specifically military history theres no troll here wwho could evven come close to questionin my authority on the subject
im simply the best there is

[So much for not dwelling on the past lolol]

I would expect nothing less of a troll with such a 8lood color.
Then surely you could tell me something a8out the re8ellions of ages past.

[Don't even ask about the filter, just troll with it. He has his reasons.]

there wwere twwo definin rebellions back then that lead to alternia bein the wway it is
i cant really say much about the first one cause apparently it wwas an evven bigger deal than the second evven though there wwerent huge changes made to alternia for it so information on it wwas near impossible to come by
i think the ~~condesce~~ her imperious condescension wwanted noone findin out about wwhat he wwas sayin so nooned get any ideas later on from it
somethin to do wwith some guy wwho started spreadin stuff about howw troll culture wwas wwrong an shit an he wwanted some kinda mass reform amongst the wwhole society
naturally the highbloods didnt fuckin stand for this an had him culled no big deal
the second rebellion followwin that stemmed from that guy from the first one runnin his teachins all ovver the place an convvincin a lot a the lowwer bloods that maybe he wwas right after all
again it wwas really typical rebellion shit unless youre lookin for me to detail all these battles an shit in intricate detail wwhich i doubt
eitherwway that kinda fucked up too an the highbloods got real pissed about it especially the empress
so at that point they figured drag all the adult trolls off wworld an distract em wwith nevver endin galactic conquest theyd be surrounded by so many enemies an battles they wwouldnt havve time to think a any kind a rebellin
wwhereas alternia wwas left to the younger trolls
really all im missin is a feww names an wwhat exactly the first guys deal wwas
otherwwise thats pretty much all there is
nevver been a rebellion since then followwin your time
unless you mean wway before then
in wwhich case it might take a wwhile if you need somethin specific

[...and...yes he really is enjoying himself now. He's even hoping she'll ask more questions maybe.]

Edited 2012-02-18 23:48 (UTC)

[OK, fine, she'll go with the filter. Maybe he's scared of the Empress showing up or something.]

The first re8ellion you mentioned is in fact in my recent memory - I know the Sufferer's tale quite well.
8ut I suppose what interests me most is the head of the second re8ellion you mentioned. Surely he must have 8een quite the 8rave troll to attempt to tread where others had previously failed.

accordin to the opinion a some a the other trolls in his little followwin he wwas
pretty much anyone olivveblooded or beloww wwho recorded any kind a opinion a him had only good things to say
a feww wwaywward blubloods too
bravve an strong an fearless wwhatevver you get the deal they really had a thing goin for the guy
though as expected any a the colors abovve that had nothin but bad things to say convversely
you havve the odd positivve remark though its merely a matter a admittin he wwas a wworthy advversary as opposed to the straight up wworshippin the lowwer bloods gavve him
i guess the library here could havve shit on him but i nevver really bothered lookin him up

[...okay he has to ask.]

though
you knoww i wwouldnt mind hearin about the first rebellion sometime
like i said infos scarce havvin a source wwould be really handy

[Yup. Worthy adversary. That's the only reason she's interested in him at all. Totally.]

I have searched the li8rary for him in 8rief, 8ut perhaps a more careful perusal is necessary.
As for the tale of the Sufferer, I could disclose it to you now if you wish. I am not otherwise engaged.
Though to be truthful, I do not truthfully know every detail of his re8ellion myself. I was never directly involved on either side; I simply know of those who were.

wwell
i guess if youre gonna look into it youre pretty much gonna need my help
ivve been here a feww months noww an im pretty much almost finished evvery alternia related piece a text this dump has in it's library
i wwas about to movve onto the texts regardin the military history a other cultures but i figure i may as wwell do this before i completely movve on
consider it a once off i wwont evven ask for anythin in return

an thats fine havvin that is better than havvin no info at all for the most part
like i said vvery scarce sources here an evverythin i mentioned already is all i knoww
im sure you knoww a lot more than that evven if its not the full history or anythin

[Well... not that she wants to accept help from a baby version of her ex-kismesis, but at least she won't waste time having to read through boring history after boring history.]

I suppose I will have to take you up on that offer.

As for the Sufferer: as you said, he held beliefs that were heretical. His teachings spoke that every troll was equal, regardless of the color of their 8lood. His sermons spoke of another world in which trolls were peaceful and generally kind to one another.
The high8loods took this poorly once they caught wind of it, as can 8e expected. Once they captured him, they held a pu8lic execution wherein he was shackled 8y 8urning irons to the imperial flogging jut. It is said that 8efore he passed, he let out a Vast Expletive, though I know not how much of that is conjecture.
I do know, however, that the Sufferer himself was not even on the hemospectrum, so he was raised 8y another troll rather than a lusus. Said troll l8ter 8ecame a mem8er of his following, then sold into slavery once his re8ellion was ended. She was eventually killed 8y your own ancestor, in fact.
Far as I am aware, only one mem8er of his following managed to escape following his demise, 8ut I know not what 8ecame of her. Only that the executioner who failed to kill her shortly thereafter 8ecame an Expatri8.

[There's a lot of unresponsiveness on Eridan's part; for one thing, he's totally writing all of this down. He read it four or five times over, then began taking notes, so that's gonna take some time of course.

Next, well, he's doing something else. But she'll find out what that is eventually. Hope Mindfang doesn't mind waiting.]

[Eventually though;]

right
so im dowwn in the library
wwell i guess its more accurate to say ivve been dowwn here the entire time wwevve been talkin
but in any case wwhenevver youre done doin wwhatevver the fuck youre doin get dowwn here

[Annnnnd, well, if she tries responding he's not going to answer.]

[As it turns out Mindfang is doing almost nothing, so she heads straight there. She sits down next to Eridan without invitation, clearly a bit antsy.]

So what have you found on the Summoner?

[oh sup mindfang

He won't...react too badly to it at least, instead just sliding a stack of pages over to her side of the table.

It's only about fifteen or twenty pages, but hey, if she doesn't trust him on it she can go read all the books in the library herself.]

This is evverythin'. I just ripped all the pages out cause either they'll fix themselvves, people can wwish for neww ones or they can just deal wwith it.

Better than handin' you a stack a books at least.

[She flips through the pages quickly, scanning for any new tidbits of information. Nothing sticks out as being spectacularly different from what she had already gathered from the cue ball, but she can always read more carefully for nuance later. She'll take what she can get.]

I don't suspect anyone will much miss these pages, either. I am under the impression that Alternian history books are not well read.

[She folds up the pages and pockets them for now.]

And... I suppose an expression of gratitude is in order as well.

[Gratitude?]

[Oh god, he got so distracted by everything he just realized now that he hasn't treated her with utter disdain in almost forever.

This can't stand, it can't be allowed to happen.

Even if he did enjoy the moment of ~~friendly~~ conversation. Just for a little while.]

Just fuckin' savve it lowwblood, alright? Your thanks is meanin'less to me.

It means absolutely nothin'.

You got wwhat you came for, get outta my sight already.

[Well. That's a rather sudden shift in demeanor.]

[Oh well - at least he's easier to deal with when he's being pointlessly disdainful.]

Very well, wiggler. I shall gleefully take my leave of you, then.

[That said, she's up on her feet and out the door as quickly as possible.]

[/will just stalk this quietly for now... funny aliens are interesting]

[Oh snap... she'd almost forgotten Mindfang was here. But it's too calm to be Vriska, and there's the matter of that nameplate on the fourth floor... a little (unsure) about this. Yeah, she says it's just curiosity, but Aradia isn't about to trust cerulean text without due process.]

nobody knows much really
the archaeological record is vague at best
why do you ask

It simply seems a w8ste to have so many trolls from the future at my disposal and not take advantage of their insight of the events to come.

theres really not much point in you knowing though
your future will play out the same whether or not you know what will happen
and your knowledge or lack thereof will in turn shape and has already shaped what from your perspective has yet to happen

[And that's assuming she'll even remember anything about Para when she goes back (read: lol nope).]

I am well aware of this, 8ut I prefer to know my f8 ahead of time.
At least then I am faced with fewer disappointments.

i take it then that you are either involved in one of said rebellions
or you expect to be
is that correct

Hm, quite perceptive I see.
8ut yes, you are correct, though I know not how precisely I will fall into play when it happens.
Simply that I will 8e there and, consequently, meet my end there.

then you already know your fate
theres nothing much to gain by knowing the specifics
at least then you can maintain the illusion of personal efficacy

8ut why 8other myself with maintaining an illusion when I know my f8 is already sealed?
I have no interest in attempting to change the future; I simply wish to know what it is. There is no harm in that.

even that being the case i still dont think its a good line of questioning to pursue
spoilers are an easy burden to pick up but heavy to bear
and you never know when that kind of curiosity might blow up in your face
speaking of which
im curious as to how you came by the information you already have?
divining ones own death isnt a property of vision eightfold

[She has a hunch, though.]

A certain treasure of mine; an or8 with the power of omniscience.
Most are una8le to use it, of course, 8ut I am conferred something of an advantage due to my enhanced vision.
Naturally, I asked it some questions relevant to my well-8eing.

thats what i thought

"That's what you thought"?
You know of it, then?

vriska used to have one of those too
im sure shed be happy to tell you all about it

Does she, now?
That is a somewhat trou8ling 8it of news.
8ut I suppose you are correct - I should confront her should I wish to know how she acquired the thing.

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