WINTER WRAP-UP!

[rarities]

[Good morning, Paradisa! You know what today is. That's right, it's WINTER WRAP-UP!!! Now that you've gotten your note about your task -- put on your coats, scarves, and gloves, and get to work!]

CASTLE SHOVELING | CLOUD MOVING | WILDLIFE AWAKENING | PUTTING OUT THE FIRES | ICE SCORING | CASTLE SEED PLANTING | BIRD DIRECTING | BIRD NESTS | TOWER CLEANING | CITY STREET PLOWING | CITY FOOD PLANTING | ORGANIZATION TEAM

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[molotov]

[Molotov blinks for a moment, then enunciates like he is five.]

They get jobs. They hold the same rights as men, to land and name and inheritance. They go to universities and become educated. Men are not inherently better at providing and sheltering, you know.

In my world, I make far more money than Samson does. At least a thousand times his yearly income. And I run my own company, one that has bested every other company in competition with us. No men work for or with me.

Why do I need a man for anything other than my own entertainment and fulfillment, Mr. Auditore?

[assassino]

[This has never occurred to him, especially not in that kind of detail.]

Few women have men's jobs, in my time, beyond prostitutes and nursemaids, but where would they get the skills to have other occupations? Who would pay for their education, to start their companies? And if men are not better providers, why have we served that role through all of history?

[And before the inevitable schooling, he adds:]

I would enjoy a society in which women are not confined to the home or the brothel, but I simply do not see how it is possible. Besides, men would be scoundrels without a woman's tenderness.

MOLOTOV: CHAMPION FEMINIST

[molotov]

Women are exactly as capable of learning occupational skills as men are. Why does having a penis make you more qualified to be an assassin than I am? Do not even answer that: it does not. In fact, I am probably a better assassin than you are. [She's not being gloating, or even particularly snarky -- her tone implies that it's just a fact, same as if she had told him that the sky is blue, or water is wet.]

Men have been dominant because men tend to be larger, and ancient people did not have societal restraints that stopped them from beating women into submission. Then men took away the rights, or what amounted to them, of women to do anything without permission. They wrote it into religion, convinced women that they could do nothing except care for men and children. They killed women who spoke out and took action. They valued a woman only by her ability to produce sons. Men created a world where women were lesser, based on nothing more than their sex, and then they forced women into those rules. That is why men served that role.

In roughly 450 years, from your time point, women will fight back. They will obtain the vote, and the right to attend schools and hold jobs. The world will change, and men will feel it. I am lucky enough to be from long after that has happened, and I have reaped the benefits from the women who came before me.

Women leading lives of their own design, having money and power, does not mean that they stop forging relationships with men. But perhaps, if men are so incapable of civilized behavior without female influence, they should be locked away and used only for procreation. For the safety of everyone, da?

lmao i love this thread

[assassino]

[He's sorely tempted to interrupt her at least once or twice, if only to protect his ego and avoid having to admit he's wrong, but he bites his tongue and listens. The logic's all there, even if much of it smacks of things he's still not sure how to grapple with, but it still doesn't match up with his experiences.

Then again, she has 500 years on him, and he supposes much could have changed in that time. Things have changed enough in his lifetime, to start with, it's not unreasonable to believe they could change more.

Ezio feels a little sheepish.]

Well... that is a fair argument, signora. But it still does not explain why women would wait so long to obtain this "vote" and these "rights".



[... and he's not even touching the better assassin thing because he is not gonna fight a woman. Irony.]

[molotov]

[But Ezio, if you fight her and win which you won't, then you get to boink her!]

Because they were subjugated by men.

[assassino]

[Yo... he is not raising a hand against a woman...]

Yes, but men would subjugate them anyhow. Why 450 years from now? Why not my time? It is a good time for a revolution.

[molotov]

I would suspect it mostly has to do with the fact that your religion dictates that they serve men or go to hell.

[assassino]

So if people of your time are not Christians or Moslem, what do they adhere to?

[molotov]

Oh, we have Christians and Muslims. The majority of the world is religious. But the Catholic foothold is much smaller now, particularly in more progressive nations.

And where I was born, there was no religion at all. It was illegal.

[assassino]

[Oh God he's so confused.]

If there is no religion where you were born, what do people believe in?

[molotov]

Nothing. There is no afterlife, no greater force or man in the sky pulling the strings. Your morals and actions are your own.

I suppose some still held to the old beliefs, the church, but they were not allowed to openly say so, let alone hold services or celebrations.

[assassino]

[What...]

I can imagine the benefits of abandoning the church, but there was an angel here, as well as the Serpent of Eden. How can people believe there is no God?

[molotov]

I can say I am the queen of England, but that does not make it true.

[assassino]

[But they were so convincing :(]

I see.

Well, I'm glad if women are happier in your time.

[molotov]

[Molotov told God to his face that he wasn't real.]

They most certainly are. Keep it in mind if any women from your time show up.

[assassino]

There is a woman from my time here. If anything, I'm more welcoming to this development than she is.

[molotov]

Well.

Then probably she should be killed. [SHRUG. Molotov is a feminist but also a terrible person.]

[assassino]

[Defensive]

Absolutely not. What kind of logic is that?

[molotov]

If you are not an asset to the cause, then you are an enemy to be terminated.

[assassino]

So the answer is for women to become more violent than men so that they might achieve power? It would serve no purpose. If the women of your time would kill another woman for being weak, then men are right to protect and provide for women. It would be better than a meaningless execution by a new tyrant.

[molotov]

I would kill a man for being weak, too. If anyone at all prefers their slavery to freedom, then they do not deserve to live.

[assassino]

And if they do not know that they are slaves? You said it yourself; many women do not rebel because they have been led to believe there is no cause to.

[molotov]

If someone explains otherwise, and tells you that it will happen, and that it will change the world, and still you would object? That is preferring the slavery.

[assassino]

[He folds his arms.]

I was willing to entertain the idea, but even if others do not, they should not be condemned for it. Forcing others to join your cause on pain of death is tyranny.

[molotov]

My cause has to do with the liberation of more than half the world's population. I have no problem killing anyone who stands in my way, for any reason. If it is tyranny to want what is best for an entire gender, then call me a tyrant. Being a tyrant is not so bad -- the death that comes from opposing me is far worse.